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chiknthief said:
I like libertarians too BUT, I hate their anti-Israel BS, and their pro-gay and lax borders philosophy. In those areas they sound just like far leftwing democrats. And Ron Paul supports the mosque at ground zero. P iss on that crap.
What’s this about libertarians being “anti-Israel” ? The current Vice-Chair of the LPNM is a rather outspoken pro-Israel Jewish lady.
As for libertarians being “pro-gay,” we’re not pro-anything per se, just that we (libertarians) don’t see how gay people who are minding their own business are harming others. Thus they should be left alone where the law is concerned.
If you really want to keep the Mexicans out of the United States, all you have to do is help Obama get re-elected, then let him have his way with the economy. A few years of that, and quite a few Americans will be headed south for greener pastures. But not if the border is locked down – Joe Miller, the GOP’s 2010 candidate for U.S. Senate in Alaska, expressed admiration for East Germany’s border policing system, which was mostly designed to keep the East Germans in.
About the “mosque at ground zero” – it’s a bit more complex of an issue than its detractors like to discuss. There are “9-11″ families who support it, and Muslims who are against it. Feisal Abdul Rauf was advised by several long-time Jewish residents of New York City on how to go about building the Park51 facility.
It depends on what folks call constitutional. Since when do gays have a right to indoctrinate our kids in our schools on the gay rights grounds?
Since I don’t have any kids in the government-owned and operated daycare / indoctrination camps, I don’t see this point.
Since when does anyone have a “right” to a taxpayer-funded education, or anything else?
Aint they already free to be gay if they wanna be? Why do they overstep their boundaries to recruit innocent kids in our taxpayer funded schools? Folks used to hang people by the neck for this kinda crap. Freedom only goes so far. If busybody folks cross my fence I’ll shoot their azzes on the spot. Thats my constitutional right. In America you are supposed to be free to do any damn thing you want U-N-L-E-S-S you cross your neighbors fence. Too many folks have forgotten the crossing your neighbors fence part. Gays getting married AINT the same as natural/normal true marriage between a man and a woman. Never has been and never will be.
How do gays who have never heard of you and you’ve never heard of them “cross your fence” by simply getting together?
If it’s really such a threat, then sue them for damages.
I don’t give a damn about the propaganda turning everything into different shades of grey.(justification) It just ‘flat out’ aint natural and thats crossing the fence when folks try to force their deviancy on the unwilling masses. Maybe we should give murderers special rights too so they can polish off all the deviant morons in our midst who recruit poor innocent children. Wonder how well that’ll fly??? lol
How do they “force their deviancy on the unwilling masses” by simply existing?
Remember that the libertarian stance on this, on the border, and everything else comes from the same place that libertarians’ stance on gun rights, taxes, spending and regulations comes from &8211 the Non-Aggression Principle.
If you want the gays, Mexicans and Muslims to respect your rights to own and carry weapons, to keep, save and spend your cash as you see fit, to run your business as you see fit, then maybe you should respect their rights to live their lives as long as they’re not physically harming you.
CyberWiz Beezer said:
Mike, the Chicken Man and I had lunch today and we discussed some of this. I don’t want to speak for him, but I would say the term I would use is “protected class”.
Why is white on black crime a hate crime, when not vice-versa ?
It’s still a crime, regardless of who injures whom. When the cops and district attorneys pick and choose the cases they prosecute based on race, that’s selective enforcement, which is supposed to be a prosecutable crime in and of itself.
Ditto straight/gay ? And gay ” marriage”.
If the gays aren’t inflicting physical force or committing fraud, I don’t see the problem that needs to be addressed by government.
And the schools giving out condoms and abortion advice and even assisting in arranging abortions while an aspirin requires parental notification.
That’s more reasons to promote private schools and homeschooling, in my opinion. Not to mention “public school” nurses giving kids psychoactive drugs like Ritalin, Prozac, and Zoloft and calling CYFD if the parents object. When was the last time you heard of these sort of things happening with private schools or amongst homeschoolers? And don’t forget school shootings . . . .
There’s dozens more of these WTF’s including protection of criminal rights over victims, etc that just make no sense at all.
I’ve never heard this one except here. Got any documentation of this? Links to an LP-affiliated site where libertarians advocate this kind of thing?
The Libertarian Party seems to have a few concepts that not only veer from Conservative (and yes even Republican) thinking but logic, and they seem more liberal than Conservative. Not sure I summarized it very well.
Not sure what you’re talking about here.
CyberWiz Beezer said:
No, no.. I wasn’t ascribing all that or really much of it to the LP, I just said we were talking about practices that make no sense. Criminal rights/victims rights was not part of the LP discussion.
OK, that makes sense. Had me wondering there. There we agree – too often the crooks get away with way too much, and the victims get squat.
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